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Re: Aeronca 11AC Chief Project FS

by Ron Wanttaja <ron.wanttaja@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Jun 23, 2008 at 12:37 AM

On Sun, 22 Jun 2008 19:20:26 -0400, clare at snyder dot ontario dot canada
wrote:

> On Sun, 22 Jun 2008 14:10:15 -0700 (PDT), Victor Bravo
> <dirdev@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
> 
> 
> >Have a look at the Zenair 601XL, where an airframe KIT costs you $20K.
> >Now look at the unfortunate and tragic problems the 601 is having with
> >the wings folding in flight, and compare it to an airplane with a 60
> >year safety record, full commercial FAA certification, and tell me
> >that this is not a reasonable bargain.
> 
> Wings folding in flight??
> New one on me. The ONE I'm aware of had bolts not properly installed.

Hmmmm.  I presume this one is NTSB # LAX06LA105, but the online re****t
says,
"Eleven of the main spar attach bolts were found in their normal position
and
remained connected by their respective retaining nuts and washers.
Recovery
personnel had disassembled the twelfth bolt during retrieval of the
airplane."
Nothing mentioned about improper assembly.

> The other one, the wings were torn off when a couple of
> drug-compromized idiots put it into a dive or something that GREATLY
> exceeded VNE and tried to pull it out, or something like that.
> The Aeronca Champ would have suffered the same fate in both cases.

DFW07LA102 combined wing failure with the detection of some prescription
meds in
the organs of the sole occupant...doesn't sound like the one you're
referring
to.  Was it a foreign crash?

In any case, I think the Fly Baby has the Zenair 601 beat.  Out of 51 Fly
Baby
crashes, 13 involved wing failure.

Ron Wanttaja
 




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Aeronca 11AC Chief Project FS
Victor Bravo <dirdev@[  2008-06-19 23:50:54 
Re: Aeronca 11AC Chief Project FS
"RST Engineering&quo  2008-06-21 08:59:35 
Re: Aeronca 11AC Chief Project FS
Victor Bravo <dirdev@[  2008-06-22 14:10:15 
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cavelamb himself <cave  2008-06-22 16:38:16 
Re: Aeronca 11AC Chief Project FS
"RST Engineering&quo  2008-06-22 14:41:03 
Re: Aeronca 11AC Chief Project FS
cavelamb himself <cave  2008-06-22 18:22:51 
Re: Aeronca 11AC Chief Project FS
Jim Logajan <JamesL@[E  2008-06-22 18:33:58 
Re: Aeronca 11AC Chief Project FS
"RST Engineering&quo  2008-06-22 17:39:01 
Re: Aeronca 11AC Chief Project FS
Sallie <SalMonilla@[EM  2008-06-23 02:30:21 
Re: Aeronca 11AC Chief Project FS
Jay Maynard <jmaynard@  2008-06-22 21:58:25 
Re: Aeronca 11AC Chief Project FS
Sallie <SalMonilla@[EM  2008-06-23 02:28:48 
Re: Aeronca 11AC Chief Project FS
clare at snyder dot ontar  2008-06-22 19:20:26 
Re: Aeronca 11AC Chief Project FS
Ron Wanttaja <ron.want  2008-06-23 00:37:32 
Re: Aeronca 11AC Chief Project FS
Jim Logajan <JamesL@[E  2008-06-23 12:32:33 
Re: Aeronca 11AC Chief Project FS
"Vaughn Simon"   2008-06-23 22:19:42 
Re: Aeronca 11AC Chief Project FS
Ron Wanttaja <ron.want  2008-06-23 18:46:43 
Re: Aeronca 11AC Chief Project FS
Dan_Thomas_nospam@[EMAIL   2008-06-22 18:09:18 
Re: Aeronca 11AC Chief Project FS
"RST Engineering&quo  2008-06-22 19:19:01 
Re: Aeronca 11AC Chief Project FS
Darrel Toepfer <spamba  2008-06-23 02:29:58 
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"Morgans" <j  2008-06-22 22:41:41 
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Victor Bravo <dirdev@[  2008-06-22 23:32:41 
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Victor Bravo <dirdev@[  2008-06-22 23:43:35 
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Jay Maynard <jmaynard@  2008-06-24 00:55:06 
Re: Aeronca 11AC Chief Project FS
John Smith <jsmith@[EM  2008-06-23 21:22:36 
Re: Aeronca 11AC Chief Project FS
clare at snyder dot ontar  2008-06-23 22:06:04 
Re: Aeronca 11AC Chief Project FS
Gig 601Xl Builder <wrg  2008-06-24 08:32:48 
Re: Aeronca 11AC Chief Project FS
Jay Maynard <jmaynard@  2008-06-24 21:12:40 
Re: Aeronca 11AC Chief Project FS
Victor Bravo <dirdev@[  2008-06-23 22:51:03 
Re: Aeronca 11AC Chief Project FS
Jay Maynard <jmaynard@  2008-06-24 21:11:50 
Re: Aeronca 11AC Chief Project FS
Victor Bravo <dirdev@[  2008-06-24 14:16:34 
Re: Aeronca 11AC Chief Project FS
Jay Maynard <jmaynard@  2008-06-24 21:22:19 
Re: Aeronca 11AC Chief Project FS
clare at snyder dot ontar  2008-06-24 22:27:27 
Re: Aeronca 11AC Chief Project FS
Gig 601Xl Builder <wrg  2008-06-25 09:01:34 
Re: Aeronca 11AC Chief Project FS
Ron Wanttaja <ron.want  2008-06-25 19:02:47 
Re: Aeronca 11AC Chief Project FS
"Paul M. Anton"  2008-06-26 07:27:03 
Re: Aeronca 11AC Chief Project FS
Victor Bravo <dirdev@[  2008-07-07 00:06:58 
Re: Aeronca 11AC Chief Project FS
Gig 601Xl Builder <wrg  2008-07-07 08:15:39 
Re: Aeronca 11AC Chief Project FS
Victor Bravo <dirdev@[  2008-07-07 00:17:24 
Re: Aeronca 11AC Chief Project FS
Victor Bravo <dirdev@[  2008-07-07 00:20:53 
Re: Aeronca 11AC Chief Project FS
cavelamb himself <cave  2008-07-07 04:00:52 
Re: Aeronca 11AC Chief Project FS
Victor Bravo <dirdev@[  2008-07-28 11:34:57 
Re: Aeronca 11AC Chief Project FS
Jay Maynard <jmaynard@  2008-07-29 14:16:02 
Re: Aeronca 11AC Chief Project FS
Victor Bravo <dirdev@[  2008-07-29 13:08:35 
Re: Aeronca 11AC Chief Project FS
Jim Logajan <JamesL@[E  2008-07-29 15:45:09 
Re: Aeronca 11AC Chief Project FS
Jay Maynard <jmaynard@  2008-08-04 13:34:04 
Re: Aeronca 11AC Chief Project FS
Victor Bravo <dirdev@[  2008-08-04 14:23:16 

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