As for some help sometime. Pay small fee. Get nuttin.
Repeat......Nuttin.
Prices are ok. Using common sense you can avoid getting stolen
from most times.
but again its a simple fact...all they do is run a data base. Then
charge you alot to list anything in it.
"Ron" <wa0kds@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message
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> I THINK YOU HAVE THAT WRONG.... Ebay is great and a lot of the items on
> there are great and there price usually is hard to beat but there are so
> many scam artist's trying to call themself's eBay that eBay and PayPal
> get a bum rap. Just never answer any email that states it is from eBay
> and PayPal and you will never have a problem. Only communication with
> eBay and PayPal via their WEB site or via a phone call and yes they both
> have phone numbers and real people on the other side of the phone.
>
>
>
> www.embeddedrf.com wrote:
> > The guy is basically right that Ebay is a bunch of nothing
> > for a small fee.
> >
> >
> > <info> wrote in message
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> >
> >>NONSENSE
> >>
> >>wat een gelul
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>"ebaysucks" <ebaysuckss@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message
> >>news:rQEIf.16163$7C3.8167@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >>
> >>>This is just my opinion, do your own due diligence
> >>>buyers beware
> >>>
> >>>My opinion is ebay and paypal is full of fraud . Repeat do not under
> >
> > any
> >
> >>>cir***stance give your checking account or credit card to these
people.
> >>
> >>They
> >>
> >>>have figured a way to legitimize being taken to the cleaners. They
> >
> > will
> >
> >>,
> >>
> >>>can and do take your money out of your account automatically and you
> >
> > will
> >
> >>be
> >>
> >>>left with : DO NOT REPLY TO THIS EMAIL . Whenever anyone uses that
line
> >
> > DO
> >
> >>>NOT REPLY TO THIS EMAIL , that should tell you, how often people
needed
> >
> > to
> >
> >>>do just that and for good reason and couldn't. That's just one tell
tale
> >>>sign its not if, its when and for how much before your going to lose
on
> >
> > a
> >
> >>>transaction. In my estimation Ebay is full of fraud
> >>>
> >>>>>you have to be able to spot all the techniques to spot fraud and
> >
> > trust
> >
> >>me
> >>
> >>>>>there are many things to look for and spot if you are going to risk
> >>>>>losing your money on a auction or transaction on Ebay or Paypal.
> >>>>>Even if you buy bad item like electronics and you use Paypal Buyer
> >>>>>Protection
> >>>>>your liable to have to get it checked out to prove its bad,
> >
> > depending
> >
> >>on
> >>
> >>>>>a totally subjective process that may not be consistent, and so so
> >
> > far
> >
> >>I
> >>
> >>>>>can't have
> >>>>>it checked out for less then $40dollars. Assume it only costs $30
> >>
> >>dollars
> >>
> >>>>>though, Paypal certainly doesn't make this policy clear unless you
> >
> > read
> >
> >>>>>small print and your automatically going to be out that if you
> >
> > complain
> >
> >>>>>..so ultimately buyer is not protected after ****pping even with
> >>>>>paypal protection. Without paypal protection your even taking a
> >
> > bigger
> >
> >>>>>chance of automatic loss because people who sell and defraud ,
don't
> >>
> >>care
> >>
> >>>>>what happens cause you have little recourse.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>that's just the beginning of the rants
> >>>>Here is more in case you choose to use ebay or paypal and please
> >
> > listen
> >
> >>>>carefully
> >>>>lots and lots of fees, before you know it, your goingto be taking a
> >>
> >>awful
> >>
> >>>>beating and sabotaging the reason to use ebay in the first place (
> >
> > sell
> >
> >>>>items with chance to get reasonable return)
> >>>>When buyer backs out, when auctions go bad, when you get a bad item,
> >>
> >>what
> >>
> >>>>auction to bid on, how to get answers, is often a myriad of links.
How
> >>>>much
> >>>>time do you have? Part of it is because ebay and paypal don't want
to
> >
> > be
> >
> >>>>bothered , cause why should they , if your willing to spend hours
> >
> > doing
> >
> >>it
> >>
> >>>>for them, or if you decide to give up , they win .When I
> >>>>complained to ebay or paypal they often do what lousy scammers do ;
> >
> > lie
> >
> >>to
> >>
> >>>>you ( swear to God paypal representatives just lie to you to get you
> >
> > off
> >
> >>>>their backs and each representative tells you something different,
and
> >
> > I
> >
> >>>>couldn't make this up even if I wanted to,)or
> >>>>redirect you to another link. I am sure there are policies in place
> >
> > but
> >
> >>>>most
> >>>>of it is just winging it. A large percent of auctions are for bad
> >>>>merchandise to some extent or another, and you never are or often
> >
> > won't
> >
> >>>>get
> >>>>your
> >>>>money back unless you use paypal protection and even then paypal
often
> >>>>just
> >>>>takes the money out of sellers or buyers account after many many
days.
> >>>>Paypal really isn't guaranteeing anything and often just an
uncaring
> >>>>middleman like a bookie
> >>>>
> >>>>Finally don't ever and I repeat this with no uncertain emphasis,
don't
> >>>>ever
> >>>>give paypal your checking account . They can and do automatically
take
> >>
> >>out
> >>
> >>>>funds from your account. The overall policies affecting complaints
in
> >
> > my
> >
> >>>>view is based on loose interpretations of what happened. I don't
> >
> > believe
> >
> >>>>its
> >>>>very objective but sometimes it can't be with the nature of the
> >
> > overall
> >
> >>>>process being what it is. I mean anything could be said, from
sellers
> >>
> >>who
> >>
> >>>>claim they didn't get their items back , to people who say its not
the
> >>>>same
> >>>>item, to people say the seller did whatever and it could go on and
on.
> >>
> >>At
> >>
> >>>>some point, there is no way to determine who is right or wrong and
> >
> > this
> >
> >>is
> >>
> >>>>why more then anything else, the protection programs do not work.
Its
> >>
> >>just
> >>
> >>>>as possible to get ripped off by Paypal siding with scammers as it
is
> >>
> >>with
> >>
> >>>>them siding for what is right. It really does not matter sometimes
to
> >>>>Paypal
> >>>>or ebay its all so subjective. I will repeat this you got to be able
> >
> > to
> >
> >>>>spot
> >>>>the myriad of different frauds and tactics out there and paypal
often
> >>>>doesn't do a thing to remove sellers who sold bad merchandise.
NOTONCE
> >>
> >>not
> >>
> >>>>twice , not three times but often hundreds of times. And with these
> >>
> >>people
> >>
> >>>>your suppose to defend your self each time and take out hours of
your
> >>>>life?
> >>>>NOOO be prepared to have your money taken out of your account with
no
> >
> > or
> >
> >>>>little recourse. I am repeat , in no way should you ever give paypal
> >>
> >>your
> >>
> >>>>credit information or bank account. I learned the hard way..
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>My complaints about ebay and paypal are these
> >>>>>there are many scam sellers who don't sell quality good based on
> >
> > their
> >
> >>>>>descriptions
> >>>>>Unless your very knowledgably about examining every detail of item
> >
> > and
> >
> >>>>>auction you can very easily be defrauded.
> >>>>>Ebay and Paypal does not make getting help or feedback easy. Paypal
> >>>>>protection for people who claim an item is a certain way is limited
> >>
> >>often
> >>
> >>>>>enough to making said person who got bad item making them pay to
> >
> > prove
> >
> >>>>>it.
> >>>>>without paypal protection I got defrauded more times then not.
Buyer
> >>>>>beware
> >>>>>and its happened more and more recently.. In my subjective view >>
> >>
> >>this
> >>
> >>>>>is a way for people to legally get away with fraud and pay pal has
> >>>>>actually lied to me , and
> >>>>>on
> >>>>>the phone which was not easy to find the number conveniently. What
a
> >>>>>racket.
> >>>
> >>>On another Note You know who does the best on Ebay?
> >>>
> >>>>>You know who does the best? People who sell tickets to s****ts
events
> >>
> >>who
> >>
> >>>>>could not do it legally in front of game or anywhere else. I am not
> >>>>>against them I am just
> >>>>>showing how ebay and paypal just let things happen that usually you
> >>>>>wouldn't have happen anywhere else in legal format and in the end
you
> >>
> >>end
> >>
> >>>>>up losing .>>
> >>>>
> >>>>that's just the beginning of the rants
> >>>
> >>>Here is more in case you choose to use ebay
> >>>lots and lots of fees
> >>>When buyer backs out, when auctions go bad, when you get a bad item,
> >
> > what
> >
> >>>auction to bid on, how to get answers, is often a myriad of links.
When
> >
> > I
> >
> >>>complained to ebay or paypal they often do what lousy scammers do ;
lie
> >
> > to
> >
> >>>you ( swear to god paypal representatives just lie to you to get you
off
> >>>their backs and each representative tells you something different,)or
> >>>redirect you to another link. A large percent of auctions are for bad
> >>>merchandise to some extent or another, and you never or often won't
get
> >>
> >>your
> >>
> >>>money back unless you use paypal protection and even then paypal
often
> >>
> >>just
> >>
> >>>takes the money out of sellers or buyers account after many many
days.
> >>>Paypal really isn't guaranteeing anything and often just an uncaring
> >>>middleman like a bookie
> >>>
> >>>
> >>><teethering@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message
> >>>news:MGpGf.9028$0i1.4857@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >>>
> >>>>for as long as I am online
> >>>>Its full of fraud
> >>>>you have to be able to spot all the techniques to spot fraud
> >>>>Even if you buy bad item like electronics
> >>>>your liable to have it checked out to prove its bad, so so far I
can't
> >>>>have it checked out for less then $40dollars. Assume it only costs
$30
> >>>>dollars though, Paypal certainly doesn't make this policy clear
unless
> >>
> >>you
> >>
> >>>>read small print.so ultimately buyer is not protected after ****pping
> >>
> >>even
> >>
> >>>>with paypal protection. Without paypal protection your even taking a
> >>>>bigger chance of automatic loss.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>>>
> >>>>">>
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>
> >
> >
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