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"ebaysucks" <ebaysuckss@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message
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> This is just my opinion, do your own due diligence
> buyers beware
>
> My opinion is ebay and paypal is full of fraud . Repeat do not under
any
> circumstance give your checking account or credit card to these people.
They
> have figured a way to legitimize being taken to the cleaners. They
will
,
> can and do take your money out of your account automatically and you
will
be
> left with : DO NOT REPLY TO THIS EMAIL . Whenever anyone uses that line
DO
> NOT REPLY TO THIS EMAIL , that should tell you, how often people needed
to
> do just that and for good reason and couldn't. That's just one tell tale
> sign its not if, its when and for how much before your going to lose on
a
> transaction. In my estimation Ebay is full of fraud
> >> you have to be able to spot all the techniques to spot fraud and
trust
me
> >> there are many things to look for and spot if you are going to risk
> >> losing your money on a auction or transaction on Ebay or Paypal.
> >> Even if you buy bad item like electronics and you use Paypal Buyer
> >> Protection
> >> your liable to have to get it checked out to prove its bad,
depending
on
> >> a totally subjective process that may not be consistent, and so so
far
I
> >> can't have
> >> it checked out for less then $40dollars. Assume it only costs $30
dollars
> >> though, Paypal certainly doesn't make this policy clear unless you
read
> >> small print and your automatically going to be out that if you
complain
> >> ..so ultimately buyer is not protected after ****pping even with
> >> paypal protection. Without paypal protection your even taking a
bigger
> >> chance of automatic loss because people who sell and defraud , don't
care
> >> what happens cause you have little recourse.
> >>
> >>
> >
> > that's just the beginning of the rants
> > Here is more in case you choose to use ebay or paypal and please
listen
> > carefully
> > lots and lots of fees, before you know it, your goingto be taking a
awful
> > beating and sabotaging the reason to use ebay in the first place (
sell
> > items with chance to get reasonable return)
> > When buyer backs out, when auctions go bad, when you get a bad item,
what
> > auction to bid on, how to get answers, is often a myriad of links. How
> > much
> > time do you have? Part of it is because ebay and paypal don't want to
be
> > bothered , cause why should they , if your willing to spend hours
doing
it
> > for them, or if you decide to give up , they win .When I
> > complained to ebay or paypal they often do what lousy scammers do ;
lie
to
> > you ( swear to God paypal representatives just lie to you to get you
off
> > their backs and each representative tells you something different, and
I
> > couldn't make this up even if I wanted to,)or
> > redirect you to another link. I am sure there are policies in place
but
> > most
> > of it is just winging it. A large percent of auctions are for bad
> > merchandise to some extent or another, and you never are or often
won't
> > get
> > your
> > money back unless you use paypal protection and even then paypal often
> > just
> > takes the money out of sellers or buyers account after many many days.
> > Paypal really isn't guaranteeing anything and often just an uncaring
> > middleman like a bookie
> >
> > Finally don't ever and I repeat this with no uncertain emphasis, don't
> > ever
> > give paypal your checking account . They can and do automatically take
out
> > funds from your account. The overall policies affecting complaints in
my
> > view is based on loose interpretations of what happened. I don't
believe
> > its
> > very objective but sometimes it can't be with the nature of the
overall
> > process being what it is. I mean anything could be said, from sellers
who
> > claim they didn't get their items back , to people who say its not the
> > same
> > item, to people say the seller did whatever and it could go on and on.
At
> > some point, there is no way to determine who is right or wrong and
this
is
> > why more then anything else, the protection programs do not work. Its
just
> > as possible to get ripped off by Paypal siding with scammers as it is
with
> > them siding for what is right. It really does not matter sometimes to
> > Paypal
> > or ebay its all so subjective. I will repeat this you got to be able
to
> > spot
> > the myriad of different frauds and tactics out there and paypal often
> > doesn't do a thing to remove sellers who sold bad merchandise. NOTONCE
not
> > twice , not three times but often hundreds of times. And with these
people
> > your suppose to defend your self each time and take out hours of your
> > life?
> > NOOO be prepared to have your money taken out of your account with no
or
> > little recourse. I am repeat , in no way should you ever give paypal
your
> > credit information or bank account. I learned the hard way..
> >
> >
> >> My complaints about ebay and paypal are these
> >> there are many scam sellers who don't sell quality good based on
their
> >> descriptions
> >> Unless your very knowledgably about examining every detail of item
and
> >> auction you can very easily be defrauded.
> >> Ebay and Paypal does not make getting help or feedback easy. Paypal
> >> protection for people who claim an item is a certain way is limited
often
> >> enough to making said person who got bad item making them pay to
prove
> >> it.
> >> without paypal protection I got defrauded more times then not. Buyer
> >> beware
> >> and its happened more and more recently.. In my subjective view >>
this
> >> is a way for people to legally get away with fraud and pay pal has
> >> actually lied to me , and
> >> on
> >> the phone which was not easy to find the number conveniently. What a
> >> racket.
> On another Note You know who does the best on Ebay?
> >> You know who does the best? People who sell tickets to s****ts events
who
> >> could not do it legally in front of game or anywhere else. I am not
> >> against them I am just
> >> showing how ebay and paypal just let things happen that usually you
> >> wouldn't have happen anywhere else in legal format and in the end you
end
> >> up losing .>>
> > that's just the beginning of the rants
> Here is more in case you choose to use ebay
> lots and lots of fees
> When buyer backs out, when auctions go bad, when you get a bad item,
what
> auction to bid on, how to get answers, is often a myriad of links. When
I
> complained to ebay or paypal they often do what lousy scammers do ; lie
to
> you ( swear to god paypal representatives just lie to you to get you off
> their backs and each representative tells you something different,)or
> redirect you to another link. A large percent of auctions are for bad
> merchandise to some extent or another, and you never or often won't get
your
> money back unless you use paypal protection and even then paypal often
just
> takes the money out of sellers or buyers account after many many days.
> Paypal really isn't guaranteeing anything and often just an uncaring
> middleman like a bookie
>
>
> <teethering@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message
> news:MGpGf.9028$0i1.4857@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > for as long as I am online
> > Its full of fraud
> > you have to be able to spot all the techniques to spot fraud
> > Even if you buy bad item like electronics
> > your liable to have it checked out to prove its bad, so so far I can't
> > have it checked out for less then $40dollars. Assume it only costs $30
> > dollars though, Paypal certainly doesn't make this policy clear unless
you
> > read small print.so ultimately buyer is not protected after ****pping
even
> > with paypal protection. Without paypal protection your even taking a
> > bigger chance of automatic loss.
> >
> >
>
> >
> >
> > ">>
> >>
> >
>
>
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