This is just my opinion, do your own due diligence
buyers beware
My opinion is ebay and paypal is full of fraud . Repeat do not under any
cir***stance give your checking account or credit card to these people.
They
have figured a way to legitimize being taken to the cleaners. They will
,
can and do take your money out of your account automatically and you will
be
left with : DO NOT REPLY TO THIS EMAIL . Whenever anyone uses that line DO
NOT REPLY TO THIS EMAIL , that should tell you, how often people needed to
do just that and for good reason and couldn't. That's just one tell tale
sign its not if, its when and for how much before your going to lose on a
transaction. In my estimation Ebay is full of fraud
>> you have to be able to spot all the techniques to spot fraud and trust
me
>> there are many things to look for and spot if you are going to risk
>> losing your money on a auction or transaction on Ebay or Paypal.
>> Even if you buy bad item like electronics and you use Paypal Buyer
>> Protection
>> your liable to have to get it checked out to prove its bad, depending
on
>> a totally subjective process that may not be consistent, and so so far
I
>> can't have
>> it checked out for less then $40dollars. Assume it only costs $30
dollars
>> though, Paypal certainly doesn't make this policy clear unless you read
>> small print and your automatically going to be out that if you complain
>> ..so ultimately buyer is not protected after ****pping even with
>> paypal protection. Without paypal protection your even taking a bigger
>> chance of automatic loss because people who sell and defraud , don't
care
>> what happens cause you have little recourse.
>>
>>
>
> that's just the beginning of the rants
> Here is more in case you choose to use ebay or paypal and please listen
> carefully
> lots and lots of fees, before you know it, your goingto be taking a
awful
> beating and sabotaging the reason to use ebay in the first place ( sell
> items with chance to get reasonable return)
> When buyer backs out, when auctions go bad, when you get a bad item,
what
> auction to bid on, how to get answers, is often a myriad of links. How
> much
> time do you have? Part of it is because ebay and paypal don't want to be
> bothered , cause why should they , if your willing to spend hours doing
it
> for them, or if you decide to give up , they win .When I
> complained to ebay or paypal they often do what lousy scammers do ; lie
to
> you ( swear to God paypal representatives just lie to you to get you off
> their backs and each representative tells you something different, and I
> couldn't make this up even if I wanted to,)or
> redirect you to another link. I am sure there are policies in place but
> most
> of it is just winging it. A large percent of auctions are for bad
> merchandise to some extent or another, and you never are or often won't
> get
> your
> money back unless you use paypal protection and even then paypal often
> just
> takes the money out of sellers or buyers account after many many days.
> Paypal really isn't guaranteeing anything and often just an uncaring
> middleman like a bookie
>
> Finally don't ever and I repeat this with no uncertain emphasis, don't
> ever
> give paypal your checking account . They can and do automatically take
out
> funds from your account. The overall policies affecting complaints in my
> view is based on loose interpretations of what happened. I don't believe
> its
> very objective but sometimes it can't be with the nature of the overall
> process being what it is. I mean anything could be said, from sellers
who
> claim they didn't get their items back , to people who say its not the
> same
> item, to people say the seller did whatever and it could go on and on.
At
> some point, there is no way to determine who is right or wrong and this
is
> why more then anything else, the protection programs do not work. Its
just
> as possible to get ripped off by Paypal siding with scammers as it is
with
> them siding for what is right. It really does not matter sometimes to
> Paypal
> or ebay its all so subjective. I will repeat this you got to be able to
> spot
> the myriad of different frauds and tactics out there and paypal often
> doesn't do a thing to remove sellers who sold bad merchandise. NOTONCE
not
> twice , not three times but often hundreds of times. And with these
people
> your suppose to defend your self each time and take out hours of your
> life?
> NOOO be prepared to have your money taken out of your account with no or
> little recourse. I am repeat , in no way should you ever give paypal
your
> credit information or bank account. I learned the hard way..
>
>
>> My complaints about ebay and paypal are these
>> there are many scam sellers who don't sell quality good based on their
>> descriptions
>> Unless your very knowledgably about examining every detail of item and
>> auction you can very easily be defrauded.
>> Ebay and Paypal does not make getting help or feedback easy. Paypal
>> protection for people who claim an item is a certain way is limited
often
>> enough to making said person who got bad item making them pay to prove
>> it.
>> without paypal protection I got defrauded more times then not. Buyer
>> beware
>> and its happened more and more recently.. In my subjective view >>
this
>> is a way for people to legally get away with fraud and pay pal has
>> actually lied to me , and
>> on
>> the phone which was not easy to find the number conveniently. What a
>> racket.
On another Note You know who does the best on Ebay?
>> You know who does the best? People who sell tickets to s****ts events
who
>> could not do it legally in front of game or anywhere else. I am not
>> against them I am just
>> showing how ebay and paypal just let things happen that usually you
>> wouldn't have happen anywhere else in legal format and in the end you
end
>> up losing .>>
> that's just the beginning of the rants
Here is more in case you choose to use ebay
lots and lots of fees
When buyer backs out, when auctions go bad, when you get a bad item, what
auction to bid on, how to get answers, is often a myriad of links. When I
complained to ebay or paypal they often do what lousy scammers do ; lie to
you ( swear to god paypal representatives just lie to you to get you off
their backs and each representative tells you something different,)or
redirect you to another link. A large percent of auctions are for bad
merchandise to some extent or another, and you never or often won't get
your
money back unless you use paypal protection and even then paypal often
just
takes the money out of sellers or buyers account after many many days.
Paypal really isn't guaranteeing anything and often just an uncaring
middleman like a bookie
<teethering@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message
news:MGpGf.9028$0i1.4857@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> for as long as I am online
> Its full of fraud
> you have to be able to spot all the techniques to spot fraud
> Even if you buy bad item like electronics
> your liable to have it checked out to prove its bad, so so far I can't
> have it checked out for less then $40dollars. Assume it only costs $30
> dollars though, Paypal certainly doesn't make this policy clear unless
you
> read small print.so ultimately buyer is not protected after ****pping
even
> with paypal protection. Without paypal protection your even taking a
> bigger chance of automatic loss.
>
>
> TEll others
>
> ">>
>>
>
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